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:icondamon-hetherington:
"Scientists want to create hybrid embryos by merging human cells with animal eggs in a bid to extract stem cells. The embryos would then be destroyed within 14 days."

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This is in the news here in England at the moment...
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i say go for it! i mean, come on, people. this will save lives! maybe of people close to you.

it's like those f**kin animal rights activists protesting against testing drugs on animals. ok, cosmetics shouldn't be tested on animals. but medicine? of course it should. a man's life is worth more than a monkey's. i bet if one of those protestors had cancer and the only way to treat him would be to strangle 1000 puppies he'd do it in a flash.

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:icondamon-hetherington:
I pretty much agree with you. The reason people are up in arms in this particular case is because they want to cross human & animal genes - does that make a difference? I'm selfish (like most people deep-down), I'd condone anything if it meant saving my life or a family member's...


"i bet if one of those protestors had cancer and the only way to treat him would be to strangle 1000 puppies he'd do it in a flash." - that is the funniest thing I have had the pleasure to quote back to someone!

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lol :D

yeah, it's funny but i bet it's also true!

and about mixing human and animal genes - what's the big deal? really, wtf? who is it hurting? people that object to this kind of research have too much imagination, too little common sense and no real education on the matter. they probably think mixing human and animal genes will result in an army of real life ninja turtles and shark-people. get a grip folks. it's done in a petri dash, in a lab. after anything useful is extracted it's destroyed. even if it wasn't you can hardly call anything created in that method a living being. it's just cells mixed with other cells swimming in a little bowl.

just because the media decides to profit from it, creating all kinds of controversy (which is in no small amount fueled by Hollywood - the ninja turtle reference) doesn't necessarily make it true. when is the last time somebody protested against frogs being used as lab animals? or mice, or rats? but god forbid somebody kills a monkey while doing research trying to find the cure for cancer. i know what i'm talking about. nothing is worth more than a human life. my mom had cancer three times. that's THREE (3) TIMES! thank god, she won the battle every time. but i'm sure she wouldn't have if somebody sometime in the past didn't butcher a dolphin to find out what exactly it takes to destroy cancer cells.

so yeah. merge animal and human dna. hell, wipeout an entire ZOO if you have to. if it means it will save your son's or your mom's or a complete stranger's life - isn't it worth it?

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:icondamon-hetherington:
It sure is worth it, in my book. Again, I'm selfish - I really couldn't care less about the potential 'life' which needs to be sacrificed in the name of progress - like you say, "it's just cells mixed with other cells swimming in a little bowl."
I suppose the argument is *potential* though. Same argument used by the anti-abortion clan. Say the embryo wasn't destroyed; what might it have achieved. OK, not much if it has been spliced with Michelangelo - the pizza loving Ninja Turtle, not the Italian Renaissance painter, sculptor, architect, poet, engineer yadda-yadda-yadda.

Kudos to your mum. Thrice! Wow - she is a real fighter.

I'm glad I'm not a Buddhist - I'm never getting of this wheel of Samsara at this rate! Yep. Disregard for life (however pathetic) + ignorance toward my disregard for life = Eternal Suffering. Ho-Hum.

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i don't think Buddha would know what to think of an artificially created half-human embryo :D

"Say the embryo wasn't destroyed; what might it have achieved" - it wouldn't exist in the first place if it wasn't created for the sole purpose if being used in research and then destroyed. it is supposed to achieve nothing. an embryo like the one we are discussing could never occur in nature, it is totally artificial. what divine rights does it have then? none. that's what i'd say.

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:iconfanaticus:
btw, are you planning on uploading any more deviations soon? why so few?

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:iconfanaticus:
i kinda went off subject there... :)

but still.

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:icondamon-hetherington:
I'm pretty apathetic to be honest - on most things - which is why I wimped out and didn't offer my own argument! :P
Thanks for your appraisal though, too kind as always!

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~Gruye Sep 9, 2007   Photographer
As par politics, I can't say anything, I'd sound only foolish, but as par Lighting,
top notch.
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